When we got together for this interview there were so many technical problems that one of the interviewers had to drop out of the conversation. We did it in two sections, a 20 minute general video interview and an extended hour long discussion, which was more leisurely and varied and which I particularly enjoyed. The second part is now available in the Talk Gnosis After Dark section. This can be downloaded as an mp3 podcast (my preferred method for listening to these shows) and is also available in iTunes and through the online player.